A main authority figure and preacher in John MacArthur's Grace Community Church and The Master's Seminary has engaged in overt racism. This man has a history of treating non-suburban folks as though they were stupid and second-class citizens. Is this sort of thing allowed at GCC? Has no one at The Masters Seminary noticed this man's actions? Is this sort of thing okay with those folks?
Look for that article coming up this weekend.
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Following The Good Shepherd Into Winter
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Hi Phil-
I checked you out since I really like that answer you posted on Theology Today about praying for our enemies.
I was recently the target of a very racist, very ugly slanderous comment from behind a pulpit in Plano Texas. The comment was made by Doyle Davidson of Water of Life "Church" during a live streaming internet program (I have saved the link. So has my attorney)
Thank you for speaking out against racism and bigotry. We REAL Christians have to keep speaking out and exposing this darkness in the church.
~Evil flourishes when good men do nothing~ Edmund Burke
Looking forward to your article.
Isabel
Welcome, Isabel.
Four things: 1. Welcome to Al Tosap. 2. Burke was wrong. Good men don't do nothing. Cowards do nothing. Good men act. 3. I'll be ecstatic to expose the worm that did this to you if you wish. I'll do a post on him. Just give me the documentation. Of course, clear that with your attorney and do what he/she says. 4. I'm still working on that article, but hope to finish it tonight.
Be holy because He is,
Phil.
Hi Phil,
I've heard the remark directed at Isabel and the only reason I haven't said anything about this is due to the possible litigation otherwise I would have hammered the guy.
There are too many jerks out there my friend and the shame of it is they claim to be Christians. Check out my site today for proof of this.
Phil
Will do. And good to hear from you.
Hi Phil,
Took care of it;
http://phillyflash.wordpress.com/2010/06/24/pastor-doyle-davidson-is-a-slandering-racist-pig/
Phil
Yes, Phil N., I see that.
Phil P.
Man, is that guy drunk in the audio? What's the deal? I can hardly understand him. But what I could make out was horrendous.
By the way, have you posted this GTY story yet?
Hello Terriergal:
That is actually a compliment for Doyle Davidson. When people accuse him of being a drunkard, he says they said the same about Jesus, and called him a winebibber. He can twist anything to justify his actions. He can take another man's wife because he is "righteous by faith,and not under the law". The law is not make for a righteous man, so he can do whatever his "god" tells him to. He recently stated that God could send a righteous man to kill another person if he wanted to. These dangerous teachings is what drove Dena Schlosser, one of his followers, to cut her baby's arms off to sacrifice the child unto her god, Doyle.
Isabel
terreigal,
Finally got it up today.
Phil.
Hi Phil- Thanks for the great article. This past week-end, I began research on a man named D'souza (my maiden name). There are interesting youtubes where he debates athiests. This christian man is an American, an immigrant from India, and worked as an analyst for the Reagan Administration. He also wrote a best seller about the evils of racism. Here is a recent article he wrote on the subject. I hope to meet him in September at a conference in Austin.
http://townhall.com/columnists/DineshDSouza/2009/01/28/obama_and_post-racist_america
Isabel,
I've liked D'Souza for some time. I've read one of his books. I think he's Catholic.
He has guts and principle, though, and he's right about his point in the article you cited. Stereotypes aren't always wrong. God punished whole ethnic groups for their collective sins.
I believe the best thing to do is to treat all individuals according to their own conduct--the content of their character.
Also good reading is Martin Luther King's Letter From a Birmingham Jail. I sure his theology was bad and there are questions about his life, but his intellect was sharp and he laid out great case for taking up the case of the down-trodden. That man could write.
And I know that bigotry is an equal-oppurtunity employer.
Still want to learn Hebrew. Will contact you.
God bless,
Phil Perkins.
Hi again, Phil,
Last april, I posted some excerpts from MLK's letters on my blog here:
http://inalley.wordpress.com/2010/04/19/excerpt-from-a-letter-written-by-martin-luther-king-jr/
I especially agree with what he wrote here:
...the judgment of God is upon the church as never before. If today’s church does not recapture the sacrificial spirit of the early church, it will lose its authenticity, forfeit the loyalty of millions, and be dismissed as an irrelevant social club with no meaning for the twentieth century. Every day I meet young people whose disappointment with the church has turned into outright disgust.
Which brings me to D'Souza. I don't know enough about him yet to "test the spirit", but I learned years ago that we cannot come to God with our intellects. D'Souza speaks to mostly young conservatives. I am curious to see if he is more of a scribe than a man of God, speaking by the Holy Spirit. I am ordering his books to share with my dad (his last name is De Souza) who claims to now be an athiest after being Catholic the first part of his life. Maybe D'Souza will be able to reach him in areas his daughter cannot. I hope it will at least open up communication between us.
Yes, Hebrew is on my list of things to do...I looked on your site but did not find the prices and dates. Can you direct me to more information?
Isabel
I was recently reminded of what you stated about that Edmund Burke quote about "good men"...and this MLK quote certainly agrees with your observation:
Things are different now. So often the contemporary church is a weak, ineffectual voice with an uncertain sound. So often it is an archdefender of the status quo. Par from being disturbed by the presence of the church, the power structure of the average community is consoled by the church’s silent and often even vocal sanction of things as they are.
Isabel,
As to prices, search the Scriptures. Find what Paul charged Timothy, what Elijah charged Elisha, and what Moses charged Joshua. Add them together and divide by three. That will give you their average. Pay me that.
I'll get back to you on dates. Several are currently interested and I have to get to work making arrangments.
The problem with the "church" is that it's like big government, or big education. The original mission is gone, replaced with the burning desire to grow in size and power.
Here's a question: Is the church commissioned to run the culture in a godly way, or are we commissioned to preach a gospel that will save the elect and cause the majority of any culture to hate us so badly some end up in jail, others unemployed, and others dispossessed of property?
If our mission is the gospel, we will act one way. If our mission is success, visibility in the culture, and power, we will act quite another way. In the first case, we will spend more money and time on evangelizing our commmunities. To a world full of sinful men lining sinfully in a sinful culture, the purifying effects of the gospel is like acid spilled all over structure of an evil building. In the second case, we will build large buildings and institutions and that takes all our efforts and money. We will defend the status quo and try to join it, get its approval.
For the first three hundred years after Christ there were few, if any, church buildings. All training, discipleship, and evangelism was small time and personal. Now everything is institutionalized.
My dream with the classes is to put ministerial traning back into the local church, under the eyes of elders and pastors and, thereby, make it available to anyone whom God calls. This is biblical, its restores the authority of the local church, and it recognizes the calling of all who are called, not just those who can afford it.
Interesting about your dad. I will pray for him.
On D'Souza, I don't believe he's a Christian, but that doesn't mean we can't read his works on history, etc. I read many unbelievers. And I'm not really sure if he's Catholic or not. It's been a while.
Lunch is over, so I have to go.
God bless,
Phil.
Isabel,
When you learn the languages, you can teach others over the net, in your church, whatever. What do you think of that?
Hi Phil,
According to Wikipedia, he is a Catholic and was romantically involved with Ann Coulter before he married.
Your story about those guys you met in college reminded me of an incident I recently wrote about while I was in college. I had been raised in Europe and had just arrived to the U.S to pursue my education. Here is an excerpt
Upon arrival to the U.S, I attended the University of Oklahoma, in Norman, Oklahoma in the late 70′s. I was shocked by what I heard and saw. The people around me spoke, dressed and acted very differently from those I had grown up around. I realized that things like class and race were important to them. The only thing that ever divided us growing up was our dad’s ranks! The parties on my new campus were segregated. Blacks partied on one side of the campus, whites on the other. One day, I came across a building called the BPU. I was told this was the “Black People’s Union”. I was puzzled by this. I was also told I was not welcome there. Here is a little history why: http://www.ou.edu/student/bsa/history.htm
On campus, I felt very isolated. I knew immediately I did not fit in with the sorority sisters in spite of Vicki’s attempts to introduce me to them. I eventually made a few friends with some “outsiders” and we formed our own group and called ourselves the Sigma Omega Beta’s (or SOB’s) in protest of those haughty socialites.
A friend of mine was taking a Black Literature class and I began to read some of his assigned books. Langston Hughes, Ralph Elison and James Baldwin wrote words and thoughts that somehow, I could relate to. The isolation, torment and bewilderment at men’s cruelty to each other were all concepts I could understand and even find comfort in, knowing others felt that way too. If only I had known the Jesus I know now…
Along with French, German, Spanish, and Russian, I also took a class in Cultural Anthropology, which I was fascinated with.
One day, I was talking to my black friend as we strolled on campus. We were debating an issue and a (white) man rode up behind us on a bike. The man asked me if the black man was bothering me. I looked at him and replied “no”. The man jumped off his bike, and unhooked a heavy metal chain that he had hooked to his bike. Suddenly, he swung it, I ducked, and it hit the side of my friend’s head around his temple. My friend dropped his books and ran off bleeding. The man hopped back on his bike and rode off. I stayed behind and picked the books up. People gathered around, including the Dean. The wicked man who had assaulted my friend was a worker in our cafeteria and although the police were called and a report filed, nothing was ever done about the situation. My friend was too afraid of the consequences of pursuing the matter.
My bewilderment grew. Was this the land of the free I had heard about all my life growing up overseas? Where was the home of the brave I had read about in history class? I was surrounded by cowards, racists, and self righteous religionists. And a handful of (understandably) scared black folks!
So, in answer to the question, YES! the shock of landing smack in the middle of the conservative bible belt was a definite culture shock !!
I think teaching others languages is a great idea. I tried to teach my children french and failed miserably. Maybe I'll have more patience with others?
I am one of the unchurched and have "come out from amongst them", at least for now.
Being in a cult for most of my life and spending almost every night of the week in "church" for years has somehow led me to think that I fulfilled my duties and am now free to develope a more personal relationship with the One I serve.
I do have a little blog and read quite a bit, so growing and maturing is still a priority. Learning Hebrew should fit in nicely. Maybe I can even blog a little in my new language when I become proficient enough.
Thanks, Phil and let me know the dates once they are finalized.
Isabel
I saw Doyle Davidson on video a few years back. I almost became seriously ill to my stomach. I could almost smell the stench of booze on him, he was so drunk!
His church is the worst example of false Christianity I know of... except of course a whole lot of mega-churches that teach the anti-Gospel to thousands of sheeple every week and which peruse fascist allegiances with government and big business.
Davidson is a piker compared to guys like Osteen and Warren.
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